I know I know, I haven’t posted in a while. Sorry 
Just had a lot of other things on my mind - I have a new little baby girl and life has been quite distracting.
It was interesting to see how if I could sleep polyphasically with her in our lives, and the answer was yes.
Although not quite the schedule I originally intended.
What I ended up doing was a 3 hour core everyman schedule, with 20 minute naps, which I’ve been doing for a while now.
At least until about a week ago…
[b]LucidMan(?) schedule[/b]
A good fella named Luke on DreamViews.com forums mentioned a schedule that he coined ‘lucidman’, because he had hopes of it inducing lots of lucid dreams.
I added a few touches of my own, and now I don’t know what it should be called 
Anyway, here’s what I wrote on the google email group:
On another note… I wanted to hold back on this info, but meh… the schedule I’m experimenting with was coined ‘lucidman’ by somebody on dreamviews.com (visit: it’s a good forum! 
) although the name could be a misnomer and probably needs a new name if someone can think of a good one.
Essentially it’s uberman. But instead of the annoyance of a nap every 4 hours, you squish 2 naps together in one slot. No, not a 40 minute nap (that’s not recommended), but 2 separate 20 minute naps. Now of course the biggest danger here is that you need to make sure you don’t end up just extending your 20 minute nap into 40, by just passing out back into oblivion again after that first nap.
So here’s what I’m doing (and it works a charm so far):
I nap at 5am, 1pm, 9pm
I prepare a strong, sweet flask of coffee .. yes caffeinated, will explain in a sec… and use my 20 minute mp3. When the track ends, you concentrate on drinking the coffee and nothing else. This forces you to sit up and take time to feel better about getting up. Then I get up, wash my face, check on things, and generally make sure I’m not feeling groggy anymore.
THEN take your second nap.
By the time the coffee kicks in, it’s more or less time to wake up from the second nap, and youv’e got 8 hours for the caffeine to wear off, unlike with uberman where coffee would affect your next nap.
This makes adaptation far, far easier as you have good ‘ol drugs to help things along.
Advantages:
1) Convenient spread of 8 hour wakefulness
2) Convenient timing of the naps at least in my case - before work/school, lunchtime, normal bedtime (well… bedtime for 3 year olds.. lol)
3) Flexible - if you have a meeting at your nap time, switch to standard uberman (forgo the coffee, have first nap an hour earlier, and have another nap sometime after the meeting). BTW, this concept is experimental, and not recommended during adaptation
4) Caffeine becomes your friend, not your foe
5) With 8 hour spreads, you can even consider alcohol, if you time it well. Maybe. Experimental, not recommended during adaptation, etc etc
PS: The one catch I have personally is that the sugar in the coffee seems to hit me a few minutes before the end of my second nap.
PS2: The reason I haven’t called a ‘breakthrough’ on this is because I’ve had some setbacks, namely family xmas parties, etc, where I took a chance.
Thanks guys, I feel loved again
Now if only I could make a bit of a living from this. Free mp3s are cool and everything, but don’t pay bills 
Anyway, I’m not nearly as amazing as you all think. I’d love to piss excellence, but I’m human(ish) too.
Firstly, this lucidman schedule isn’t of my own conception, but an idea of somebody on DreamViews (a guy named Luke)
Although I did add the coffee nap concept and my own personal routine. And of course, my mp3s
He hasn’t done it properly himself, and he named it lucidman with the hope that it would result in lots of lucid dreams (well, that’d be nice, but since adapted uberman normally gives me quite a few… it makes sense)
Secondly, I’ve only been doing this schedule for about a week, and 2 days ago was my family xmas party. Things didn’t go well for my schedule - I got pressured into drinking, and only got time for one nap, etc etc.
I thought I was still good, but my 9am nap ended up being a single nap of 5 hours
So this schedule is largely unproven. The only reason I believe it has a lot of potential is that for the first few days it seemed to doing well. That’s far from solid evidence of course.
That’s why I initially wanted to wait before telling you guys about this. But somebody wants to have a go at it too, great, I’d love to see the results.
If this schedule is workable, it should be a lot easier to adapt to than uberman. So this could be a step to uberman, but honestly, why would you want to change to uberman from this? The advantages are far greater on this schedule IMO.
Now onto those questions… err… I’ll make it another post, since there were so many.
Again thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
Do you guys mind if I posted some of this stuff on my site… when I finally get it together to revamp it?
With reference to your nicks of course.
Before I go on, there are a lot of other tips that I never mentioned in those other posts.
- Don’t sit in the dark. Seems obvious, but don’t be tempted to try. The brighter the room, the better, for reasons of day/night rhythm.
- Avoid very heavy, fatty, unhealthy meals during adaptation, and don’t eat within an hour or two of your naps. IMO rather delay your nap by up to an hour. Rather that than your body struggling through a bad meal.
- Do some cardio (get your heart rate up) right after your nap, particularly the one before night time.
- Snack on light and healthy food to keep your blood sugar stable
- Work out a list of things you want to do at night, and arrange them in order of mental & physical requirements. When you feel really out of sorts and ’stupid’, don’t try to do calculus. You’ll just sit there in a zombie state and end up passing out. At least that’s what I have to avoid.
- If you’re really struggling at night, tell yourself how you piss excellence and just need to take a jog outside (substitute any cardio here)’. And then do it . In my case, I have a treadmill downstairs which I just need to crawl onto and press the button. The nice thing about a treadmill is you had better move on it. Or hit the wall behind you
- Learn to meditate and clear your mind. If you struggle to go to sleep, meditate in a sleeping position instead. You will still get some rejuvenation. In my case, I go into sleep paralysis even though I’m still aware of myself.
… err don’t remember any other tips right at the moment, but those are a good start I think
Okay, let’s tackle the stack of questions..
[quote=Netopalis]
I’d be very interested in both hearing more about your schedule and in
the new MP3! Could you please tell us a bit more and upload at some
point in the near future?
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Since there seems to be some interest in it, sure
Just need to make one or two little adjustments first
[quote=William Cleveland]You’re amazing…. (How did I do?)[/quote]
A bit of overkill, but the flattery comes at a good time
Pity it doesn’t pay bills though
I’ll upload soon
[quote=Marcus]what you had to do to adapt to it[/quote]
Just the coffee nap and routine as described, and doing a bit of exercise after some naps to keep the furnace going
And my mp3s of course. And no meals within an hour or two of a nap. And avoiding particularly unhealthy rubbish.
[quote=Marcus]how long you have been on it without issues, etc.[/quote]
I still have issues, because I’m not finished adapting. Thanks to my family xmas party
The thing is, that coffee tends to mask the sleep deprivation somewhat, so it’s difficult to measure any issues. (pros and cons of coffee)
[quote=Marcus]
It sounds like one I might be interested in trying, I have actually done the double nap like you described on a few occasions when I had my schedule a bit out of wack to try and catch up without totally breaking my schedule.
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Good to know 
My previous attempts at a double nap were dodgy at best. The coffee nap and the making sure you get up to wash your face, etc really makes a difference here.
[quote=Marcus]I tried the one you uploaded with the binarial beats in it and found it distracting[/quote]
Me too actually. Someone specifically asked me to make it with binaurals, and I didn’t particularly like the result either. My most recent version has binaurals, but it’s much less distracting IMO. But I’ll see if I can upload a version without the binaurals.
At some point I still want to try isochronic tones, but I’m skeptical about the idea now, as isochronic tones are even more distracting than binaurals as I understand. I suppose part of the problem is that the binaurals I used was just a binaural track that I combined with my mp3. Results would be better if I could actually modify the left and right channels of my mp3 instead of adding a noisy track to them.
[quote=Netopalis]What do you think makes this work and Dymaxion not work?[/quote]
Dymaxion has 30 minute naps. That’s problem #1 IMO. I don’t believe in naps longer than about 25 min maximum. I stick with my 20 min nap.
And a 30 minute coffee nap won’t work too well either, because the caffeine kicks in faster than that. And the sugar even more so.
In fact, if you can stand it, I’d suggest coffee without the sugar, and then snack on something after your second nap.
[quote=Netopalis]
Despite a fewsuccesses, the general consensus has been that Dymaxion is the most
difficult schedule, yet you seem to think that this new schedule works quite easily. Any insight as to why?
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The routine I suggested helps a lot. The coffee nap especially.
Also, the most dangerous time is at night, and most people have been avoiding coffee
[quote=Netopalis]
How does this new schedule affect the “timeless” feeling that some have mentioned?
It would seem to me like having these long periods of wakefulness would accentuate it, but I could be wrong….
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Well, yes, that night period is longer, but it also means you get to concentrate on something and not be interrupted and be tempted to lie in after a nap at an ungodly hour.
Coffee helps a lot to keep going, and keeping yourself focussed on something engaging is vital.
In my case, my least mentally taxing activity is playing Fallout 3, which I can do for hours on end.
In fact, I’m more in danger of pushing my next nap too far when I get focussed on that game
When I’m feeling up to it, I do graphic illustrations and photo retouching, programming some exciting projects of mine and generally mucking around on the net or on forums.
Err… and that question of drawbacks got forgotten.
- The coffee masks your ability to judge how well you’re doing.
- The long hours between naps mean that you ideally need to keep focussed on something that takes a while, at night when adapting at least. This takes a bit of planning and self control sometimes.
- The longer nap time means you need to find a slightly more comfy spot. At work this is a problem I have, it feels like they deliberately avoid any private spots :/ I usually sleep on my side (sometimes on my back), so for my second nap, I tend to sleep on the opposite side from the first.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that using a sleep mask in the day helps somewhat. And finding a suitable place to sleep, which can be challenging sometimes.
Thanks again for the feedback, guys
- Greg
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